Comments on: Intel’s Next-Generation Atom Mini-ITX Mainboards Have Arrived http://www.logicsupply.com/blog/2010/01/14/intels-next-generation-atom-mini-itx-mainboards-have-arrived/ Logic Supply corporate weblog Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:31:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Victor Schneider http://www.logicsupply.com/blog/2010/01/14/intels-next-generation-atom-mini-itx-mainboards-have-arrived/comment-page-1/#comment-17805 Victor Schneider Fri, 23 Apr 2010 04:51:18 +0000 http://www.logicsupply.com/blog/?p=776#comment-17805 I recently got the D410PT mainboard from logicsupply and installed it in a Chenbro case with one of those DC converters that plug into the power connector. After finally figuring out how to get ahci working while _installing_ Windows XP, I ran the Peacekeeper Benchmark using the latest opera web browser and got a benchmark rating of 1477. If you try this yourself, you want to look at the "Brownian motion" segment of the benchmark, which is much better than the corresponding version using the zotac ion mainboard and a 330 cpu under XP and without the full ahci of the mainboard. My earlier comments on this board about the msi netbook running vga don't apply to the D410PT, which does a really good job running vga, compared to the netbook, which does a good job running its lcd panel. (This is being written from RIPLinuX augmented by the hald and dbus packages and the entire x directory of slacklinux 13 and a more recent kernel with full or extensive support for the D410PT.) I recently got the D410PT mainboard from logicsupply and installed it in a Chenbro case with one of those DC converters that plug into the power connector. After finally figuring out how to get ahci working while _installing_ Windows XP, I ran the Peacekeeper Benchmark using the latest opera web browser and got a benchmark rating of 1477. If you try this yourself, you want to look at the “Brownian motion” segment of the benchmark, which is much better than the corresponding version using the zotac ion mainboard and a 330 cpu under XP and without the full ahci of the mainboard.

My earlier comments on this board about the msi netbook running vga don’t apply to the D410PT, which does a really good job running vga, compared to the netbook, which does a good job running its lcd panel.

(This is being written from RIPLinuX augmented by the hald and dbus packages and the entire x directory of slacklinux 13 and a more recent kernel with full or extensive support for the D410PT.)

]]> By: V. Schneider http://www.logicsupply.com/blog/2010/01/14/intels-next-generation-atom-mini-itx-mainboards-have-arrived/comment-page-1/#comment-14928 V. Schneider Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:08:21 +0000 http://www.logicsupply.com/blog/?p=776#comment-14928 I have a brand-new msi netbook with what appears to be the junior pineytrail chipset. It came with Windows XP, and I put a slackware distribution on sda4. Running the peacekeeper benchmark on XP with Opera for Windows gives the _same_ benchmark as my dual-processor 330 zotac-ion "entry-level" desktop running XP. Also, running Opera under Linux gives roughly the same (one or two percent lower) benchmark as on my desktop linux. So, the difference is the TDP footprint. The pineytrail mainboard appears to be a test mainboard for netbook makers, because if features LVDS connection for a notebook monitor as an alternate to vga. There is a question about the 3150 controller being primarily notebook panel oriented, in that the linux video driver, in Xorg.0.log, shows there is almost no information about things like vga screen geometry available to the driver. This could be a linux problem, but running a vga monitor off of the Windows XP also shows problems with the vga, though, if you know what your are doing, you can _manually_ change the official Intel graphics driver to get the right vga resolution. So, the question is whether your pineytrail version of my netbook has the same problems. I have a brand-new msi netbook with what appears to be the junior pineytrail chipset. It came with Windows XP, and I put a slackware distribution on sda4. Running the peacekeeper benchmark on XP with Opera for Windows gives the _same_ benchmark as my dual-processor 330 zotac-ion “entry-level” desktop running XP. Also, running Opera under Linux gives roughly the same (one or two percent lower) benchmark as on my desktop linux. So, the difference is the TDP footprint.

The pineytrail mainboard appears to be a test mainboard for netbook makers, because if features LVDS connection for a notebook monitor as an alternate to vga. There is a question about the 3150 controller being primarily notebook panel oriented, in that the linux video driver, in Xorg.0.log, shows there is almost no information about things like vga screen geometry available to the driver. This could be a linux problem, but running a vga monitor off of the Windows XP also shows problems with the vga, though, if you know what your are doing, you can _manually_ change the official Intel graphics driver to get the right vga resolution.

So, the question is whether your pineytrail version of my netbook has the same problems.

]]> By: tony f. http://www.logicsupply.com/blog/2010/01/14/intels-next-generation-atom-mini-itx-mainboards-have-arrived/comment-page-1/#comment-12407 tony f. Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:25:08 +0000 http://www.logicsupply.com/blog/?p=776#comment-12407 Hello Henk, We are certainly evaluating the new Fujitsu board, primarily the one with the L325 Neo X2 CPU. If Fujitsu had set this board up with the newer 780 chipset with better graphics and DVI/HDMI, we would have been very excited. With the 690, however, we need to do a more thorough analysis of where it fits in our line and how it would benefit our customers. Thanks! Hello Henk,

We are certainly evaluating the new Fujitsu board, primarily the one with the L325 Neo X2 CPU. If Fujitsu had set this board up with the newer 780 chipset with better graphics and DVI/HDMI, we would have been very excited. With the 690, however, we need to do a more thorough analysis of where it fits in our line and how it would benefit our customers.

Thanks!

]]> By: Henk http://www.logicsupply.com/blog/2010/01/14/intels-next-generation-atom-mini-itx-mainboards-have-arrived/comment-page-1/#comment-12236 Henk Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:56:35 +0000 http://www.logicsupply.com/blog/?p=776#comment-12236 Hi Kristina, I haven't seen solid comparisons either with respect to these models. I'm glad to hear you haven't ruled it out entirely. Hi Kristina,

I haven’t seen solid comparisons either with respect to these models.

I’m glad to hear you haven’t ruled it out
entirely.

]]> By: Kristina http://www.logicsupply.com/blog/2010/01/14/intels-next-generation-atom-mini-itx-mainboards-have-arrived/comment-page-1/#comment-12229 Kristina Wed, 20 Jan 2010 14:20:20 +0000 http://www.logicsupply.com/blog/?p=776#comment-12229 Hi Henk, Thanks for the links! I'll pass these onto my product manager. I believe we have looked at this board before, but weren't exactly sure how the AMD Athlon Neo X2 would measure up to a dual core Atom. We haven't done any testing or benchmarking ourselves, so sadly, this is mainly based on speculation. I haven't seen any solid comparisons between these processors, so if you have a link to one, send it my way. I don't believe we've ruled it out entirely and I know we like the Fujitsu Industrial mainboards, so it's possible you'll see more of their products at Logic Supply, but no guarantees! :) Kristina Hi Henk,
Thanks for the links! I’ll pass these onto my product manager. I believe we have looked at this board before, but weren’t exactly sure how the AMD Athlon Neo X2 would measure up to a dual core Atom. We haven’t done any testing or benchmarking ourselves, so sadly, this is mainly based on speculation. I haven’t seen any solid comparisons between these processors, so if you have a link to one, send it my way. I don’t believe we’ve ruled it out entirely and I know we like the Fujitsu Industrial mainboards, so it’s possible you’ll see more of their products at Logic Supply, but no guarantees! :)

Kristina

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