Comments on: New ION Boards Have Arrived http://www.logicsupply.com/blog/2009/07/01/new-ion-boards-have-arrived/ Blog, News & Reviews Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:31:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Sorin http://www.logicsupply.com/blog/2009/07/01/new-ion-boards-have-arrived/comment-page-1/#comment-14245 Sorin Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:46:53 +0000 http://www.logicsupply.com/blog/?p=528#comment-14245 Hi guys, Zotac ION and 64 bit OS.... What I can confirm only is that the Zotac MAGHD-ND01-U MAG All-In-One MiniPC, which uses a board similar (more or less) like the one you guys are talking in to this article, when running Windows 7 Professional 64 bits is being able to recognize 4 GB of RAM, but is able to use just 3.2 GB.... So, like somebody else already said in here, I am tempted to drop the 64 bits operating system and go with a 32 bit Windows 7, as that one also will be able to use the same 3.2 GB of RAM. Now I am not sure if this 3.2 GB limitation is due the Windows 7 limitations.... Perhaps a Linux / Unix flavor OS will be able to go above the 3.2? However, after I went with the 4 GB of RAM and a 7200 rpm HDD, this little "thing" is unstoppable :-) Hi guys,
Zotac ION and 64 bit OS….
What I can confirm only is that the Zotac MAGHD-ND01-U MAG All-In-One MiniPC, which uses a board similar (more or less) like the one you guys are talking in to this article, when running Windows 7 Professional 64 bits is being able to recognize 4 GB of RAM, but is able to use just 3.2 GB…. So, like somebody else already said in here, I am tempted to drop the 64 bits operating system and go with a 32 bit Windows 7, as that one also will be able to use the same 3.2 GB of RAM. Now I am not sure if this 3.2 GB limitation is due the Windows 7 limitations…. Perhaps a Linux / Unix flavor OS will be able to go above the 3.2?
However, after I went with the 4 GB of RAM and a 7200 rpm HDD, this little “thing” is unstoppable :-)

]]> By: Kristina http://www.logicsupply.com/blog/2009/07/01/new-ion-boards-have-arrived/comment-page-1/#comment-10340 Kristina Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:41:26 +0000 http://www.logicsupply.com/blog/?p=528#comment-10340 Hi Richard, Thanks for the information! Yeah, I hope I'm not being unclear when I stress the long-term support platform requirement for many of our customers. Generally, what this means is will our suppliers be able to source components for mainboards, namely Intel Atom 330 CPUs in this case, in order to be able to offer the same platform for up to seven years. This is absolutely critical for our project customers who need to know if they can rely on the product being available when they need more or if the hardware fails. With the Intel Atom 330, we have already received information from some of our suppliers that the Atom 230/330 CPUs will be EOL in January 2010. We haven't heard confirmation from Intel, direct, but we're working on it. The Intel Atom N270 CPU, however, is on Intel's Embedded Roadmap, and we should expect to see mainboards with this processor for the next 3~5 years, maybe longer. What it sounds like is Intel is committed to supporting the Intel Atom CPU, just with different versions. We're eagerly awaiting the next generation Atom--the Pine Trail platform. Also, thanks for the links to the news articles for Ayn Rand. It's sort of a funny time to be an Ayn Rand fan. :) I will say that I liked her long before all this recent hullabaloo! Kristina Hi Richard,
Thanks for the information! Yeah, I hope I’m not being unclear when I stress the long-term support platform requirement for many of our customers. Generally, what this means is will our suppliers be able to source components for mainboards, namely Intel Atom 330 CPUs in this case, in order to be able to offer the same platform for up to seven years. This is absolutely critical for our project customers who need to know if they can rely on the product being available when they need more or if the hardware fails.
With the Intel Atom 330, we have already received information from some of our suppliers that the Atom 230/330 CPUs will be EOL in January 2010. We haven’t heard confirmation from Intel, direct, but we’re working on it. The Intel Atom N270 CPU, however, is on Intel’s Embedded Roadmap, and we should expect to see mainboards with this processor for the next 3~5 years, maybe longer.
What it sounds like is Intel is committed to supporting the Intel Atom CPU, just with different versions. We’re eagerly awaiting the next generation Atom–the Pine Trail platform.
Also, thanks for the links to the news articles for Ayn Rand. It’s sort of a funny time to be an Ayn Rand fan. :) I will say that I liked her long before all this recent hullabaloo!
Kristina

]]> By: Richard Moss http://www.logicsupply.com/blog/2009/07/01/new-ion-boards-have-arrived/comment-page-1/#comment-10250 Richard Moss Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:23:24 +0000 http://www.logicsupply.com/blog/?p=528#comment-10250 Kristin, in your first post, you remind "ion-atom 330 is not a long term support platform." Does this commitment from Intel change anything: sourced from Shavings from the Rumour Mill: The Road Ahead for Itel, Mike Magee in CPU: Computer Power User, Dec 2009, p. 100. " If you're wondering what's in store for netbooks, know that Intel is clearly committed to long-term producing iterations of its Atom CPU and doesn't seem at all worried that these cheap chips will dent its profitability." btw, Anne C. Heller just published extensively researched, 600-page biography: Ayn Rand and the World She Made. NPR's Guy Roz did a short interview with Ms. Heller on ATC Sunday Nov 1, search: Ayn Rand's Conservative Call Echoes Today Here's URL: http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=2&prgDate=11-1-2009 There's a 1 hour interview with author Heller at WAMU, Diane Rehm show for October 28, second hour. (site is in reconstruction, awkward to use) top level domain is www.wamu.org, here is url to calendar DR archives, but I can't get links to work. http://wamu.org/programs/dr/09/#Nov Richard Kristin, in your first post, you remind “ion-atom 330 is not a long term support platform.” Does this commitment from Intel change anything:

sourced from Shavings from the Rumour Mill: The Road Ahead for Itel, Mike Magee in CPU: Computer Power User, Dec 2009, p. 100.

” If you’re wondering what’s in store for netbooks, know that Intel is clearly committed to long-term producing iterations of its Atom CPU and doesn’t seem at all worried that these cheap chips will dent its profitability.”

btw, Anne C. Heller just published extensively researched, 600-page biography: Ayn Rand and the World She Made.

NPR’s Guy Roz did a short interview with Ms. Heller on ATC Sunday Nov 1, search: Ayn Rand’s Conservative Call Echoes Today

Here’s URL: http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=2&prgDate=11-1-2009

There’s a 1 hour interview with author Heller at WAMU, Diane Rehm show for October 28, second hour. (site is in reconstruction, awkward to use)
top level domain is http://www.wamu.org, here is url to calendar DR archives, but I can’t get links to work.

http://wamu.org/programs/dr/09/#Nov

Richard

]]> By: Tony http://www.logicsupply.com/blog/2009/07/01/new-ion-boards-have-arrived/comment-page-1/#comment-10097 Tony Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:14:22 +0000 http://www.logicsupply.com/blog/?p=528#comment-10097 Chris- Good catch - the heatsink on the N1GL actually interferes with the SATA cables plugging into the daughter card. Right-angle connectors might do the trick, or modifying the last row of fins on the heatsink. The heatsink on the 1G6 does not have this problem. After some further thought, you'd probably be better off with the fanned version anyway - that case doesn't have a lot of vents for passive cooling. As for eSATA, this does not inherently imply port replication; this would be dependent on the SATA controller and software. Any regular SATA port can be turned into an eSATA port with a conversion cable; they are fundamentally the same, although the eSATA standard has wider electrical range specs to accommodate distances up to 2m. Chris-

Good catch – the heatsink on the N1GL actually interferes with the SATA cables plugging into the daughter card. Right-angle connectors might do the trick, or modifying the last row of fins on the heatsink. The heatsink on the 1G6 does not have this problem. After some further thought, you’d probably be better off with the fanned version anyway – that case doesn’t have a lot of vents for passive cooling.

As for eSATA, this does not inherently imply port replication; this would be dependent on the SATA controller and software. Any regular SATA port can be turned into an eSATA port with a conversion cable; they are fundamentally the same, although the eSATA standard has wider electrical range specs to accommodate distances up to 2m.

]]> By: Chris http://www.logicsupply.com/blog/2009/07/01/new-ion-boards-have-arrived/comment-page-1/#comment-10087 Chris Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:39:27 +0000 http://www.logicsupply.com/blog/?p=528#comment-10087 @Tony, I was referring to the fact that your page describing the NF76-N1GL-LF does not list the eSATA daughterboard in the pick list. I think maybe it's not compatible with that particular board? If not, is eSATA still an option by connecting one of the board SATA ports and mounting it to the back panel, as you suggest? Is SATA the same as eSATA? I think eSATA implies port replication? @Tony, I was referring to the fact that your page describing the NF76-N1GL-LF does not list the eSATA daughterboard in the pick list. I think maybe it’s not compatible with that particular board?

If not, is eSATA still an option by connecting one of the board SATA ports and mounting it to the back panel, as you suggest? Is SATA the same as eSATA? I think eSATA implies port replication?

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